(I am quite serious about this. I’m not angry nor do I disrespect geology. In fact I’m saying geology is the key science that may and must now open the door to all of science’s future this century, and it’s a damn shame. Geology doesn’t take its responsibility seriously.)

If there was a time, friend geologist, to challenge me, this is the time. Perhaps the last time before I publicly challenge the last 40 years of wrong geological theory before it‘s built up again. My main target:

There is no subduction. No plates subduct. Subduction is unscientific and untrue, the ramifications of which are world shaking. And… the Earth grows! (You may have heard this before, so I caution you. This is not your father’s Earth expanding theory.) Earth is growing, not expanding, and therein lies the past-error who's answer lies in physics and not geology. Still here we mainly talk geology.

You think Earth growing is silly, but you have been taught to think that. Suppose you learned it the other way? Suppose it’s you who have been fed wrong thinking and swallowed it hook, line and stinker. Suppose YOU’VE been convinced of something you will soon laugh at! You believe the Earth eats its own crust and it has been devoured and is magically gone! At least 3/4’s of the surface coating is gone. Doesn’t that, on the face of it, seem odd? It is odd you know. 5 billion years ago this granitic mostly melted coating covered the Earth, correct?

You believe that from under the oceanic surface, heated magmic undersurface, granite and basalt, filters and rises up to the undersurface like slag on a cauldron. That it does so, just as oil rises to the top of water and lighter materials rise to the surface of heavier material when its heated or boiled. And you believe the oceanic plate cracks and rifts apart and this same slag/magma rises (not pushes) up and fills the crack and cracks and fills again. So far so good. But then you’re taught and so BELIEVE the selfsame surface subducts back down into the asthenosphere or magma, it used to be called magma and flowed like a liquid, but now with selsmic devices we find much of it is solid. You didn’t notice when this happened because subduction used to depend on fluid magma. Now, convincing you of subduction is more difficult, but not impossible, whatever’s the story you are being told today.

You’re told the basalt at 3.0 becomes heavier than the magma, it becomes peridotite. Of course, it doesn’t. Some basalts get heavy, stishovite will serve to substantially increase the density of quartz-bearing eclogite, but not poor basalt eclogite, but most don’t. But who cares. You’re told it takes time for this to happen, but you’re too cowed to ask how long it takes to get heavier. In fact, the oceanic plate subducts when it gets to be 185 million years old. Why 185 million? Damned if I know. For some reason this basalt doesn’t subduct ‘til it’s 185 million years old. You are told this by implication. Do you believe it? Really? Fact is, there’s still a whole lot of granite in that basalt, lobes of it. Like buoyant barrels tied to a heavy raft. They don’t subduct no matter what bull you feed to Archimedes.

You know the continental plate seemed to form, give or take, 5 billion years ago but that now that ancient planet covers only 1/4 of the planet. How does one explain this? Earth began, they say, with chunks gathered together and became molten and volcanic, (which is ridiculous), but it’s what they say. It differentiated and formed an outer surface of cooled granitic rock. This cooled 5 billion year old slag surface clearly covered the whole planet, don’t you agree? One day there would be water and life.

Sssso how did this concept of subduction begin? Granite rock all over the planet, ya with me? Second layer under it is basalt, right? Then magma, basaltic and granitic mostly, right? Sssso, how did subduction start? Granite doesn’t subduct, doesn’t it, ever?

While that sinks in, let’s take that granitic surfaced planet. Rain falls on it we get shallow seas, but subduction with granite? Today 3/4 of that granitic surface is gone. (Those shallow seas are gone.) In fact, folks tell us those pieces were all together in one piece, on one side of the Earth. Pangea.

Odd looking planet. Something sucked most of the surface right off the planet. Where did all that granitic rock go? Most of the Earth’s surface, not basalt, but granitic rock is gone. Look, am I making a dent here? Pieces left floating. The rest is gone!!! Look if that 3/4 granite subducted, wouldn’t it come back up at the rifts? Seems to be gone. Maybe Paul Bunyan and Blue stacked that stuff up on the continents.

Now granitic rock isn’t very heavy. It won’t subduct, even if you talk to it nice. But it’s gone. Sure as hell gone. But it had to have been there 5 billion years ago, hot like it was. Gone, now! Is there some fact I missed? Some obscure concept?

Now we say all those pieces fit together and once joined on one side of the planet into an island.

No extra pieces. An island here and there? A…A… little continent? An atoll? No? There couldn’t have been an island, could there? No divergent biology. One big island. What an odd picture to paint, but the pieces look like they fit together.

A ten year old kid could see it. But they left 3/4s of the Earth landless. Isn’t that a hell of a chunk to swallow? It meant, if true, all sorts of things. It meant, somehow, that magical subduction could seal upper crust together into one piece. You believe that? That’s pretty damn good needlework. Once I break granite or basalt it’s pretty much broken. It doesn’t seal back up. It, also, means that chunks must wander around the globe bumping and crashing into each other like bumper cars, totally and completely against the laws of physics, and mechanics, and common sense.

Oh, it means so – so much. Then they sealed together ON ONE SIDE, and why? I look at this picture in my minds eye. Endless ocean. You know what? That much ocean and you’d think it would be populated by a multitude of deep ocean life. WELL IT’S NOT.

The life is in the shallow continental shelf, except for the few forms that made their way down there over the last 100 million years or so, but 1200 ,million to 600 million years old evolution down there doesn’t, bloody, exist. Strike you as odd? Shallow seas on the land. Mostly fresh water. Didn’t have deep saltwater seas. Odd again, huh? But that’s not the worst of it. This island, which gathered together, somehow, broke in half, obeying NEW rules and each half moved to the Poles leaving a big sea 1 to 2 thousand miles wide. Do you believe that too? Named it the Tythes Sea. Then the two broke up into more pieces and believe it or not, the pieces are moving toward the equator to crash! Don’t ask me why!! Maybe the band broke up and they’re on tour in solo acts.

But you are most likely an American or a European, yes? Suppose, for a moment, you were Chinese, or Japanese, or Philippino, might you think the Pacific opened up and was once together. You might look at the incredible coincidence of the shape of Eastern Australia compared to Central America as it rides up to California. You might investigate Alaska’s southern coast and how it matches tectonicly the coast all the way down to California. You might note how Eastern Australia tucks into Asia but was pulled away and down by Antarctica. You might note that the Pacific is opening much more rapidly in proportion to the Atlantic but that 40 or 50 million ago half the Pacific was spread and returned along the spread lines, it becomes much clearer how it opened up. You might scoff at Europeans and Americans who think THEIR ocean opened when, clearly, it is subducting.

Now suppose this: Suppose we had a contest to see who was right. The Pacificers and the Atlanticers were challenged to pull their oceans together using the undersea rifting as directional maps to make a pathway to prove theirs fit together best..

You know what would happen? There would be a tie. Both sides fit together perfectly in exactly the same time frame.

Did I say perfectly? No, not perfectly, southern South America and southern Africa would not fit. In fact, there would be a 25% slice/angle missing between the two as the upper area fit neatly. Both oceans would have this same sort of problem.

You know what would solve it?

Well, if you reduce the planet by 50% .. all these shapes would come together perfectly. All the angles would fit. South America and Africa would come together and the upper plate would join the Atlantic and the Pacific. The Indian Ocean and the Antarctic Ocean, they would join perfectly. And if they did, what would it mean?

Well, first it would mean the upper tectonic continental plates would once again cover 100% of the Earth, just as they once did. Rain would make shallow seas. Gravity would be much less. Elephants could grow to the size of dinosaurs, and we would have discovered that the Earth grew.

But, we were talking about subduction.

Geology’s rule: When a continental plate collides with a continental plate it makes mountains!! Two sides rise up equally. That’s physics. Yes? Correct? When oceanic plate meets oceanic plate, by ‘modern’ geology, one side rides under the other and into dense magmic silicate, you get subduction, correct? Yes? Yes. But that’s NOT how physics works. Equal forces provide equal results for both sides. Both sides would rise up or both sides would dive down. One side would NOT, could not, dive under the other side. Impossible! The crust is 2 miles to 4 miles thick! The sides of the crack is there for at least 2 miles thick, sheared straight down. Let’s look at it.

A. If the rifts spread and pull, without violence (unlike a volcano) what is the force that pushes the ocean bottom toward geology’s subduction zone?” What force pushes hundreds of thousands of square miles of granite, basalt, and other minerals across the ocean and into the increasingly solid, as measured, asthenosphere to a subduction zone that has no, absolutely no reason to subduct oceanic plate.

B. If two upper continental plates collide, geology thinks both sides of equal plate sizes rise up into the air into mountains, rrrright? (Another bad idea.) But they say that’s HOW we get mountains. If you believe this, why don’t both sides of the oceanic plate subduct? Instead, just one side subducts. What part of physics and science allows both sides to go up in mountains and only one side goes down in subduction.

This is baaaaad science. Can you explain it... If both sides of a crack are the same thickness...which they are.

C. Just how does subduction begin. You got 2 sides of plate 5 miles thick. How, on a practical basis, does one piece slide 5 miles straight down to go under another shorn off plate, same thickness, opposite side. It s got to slide straight down… down into what? Magma? Isn’t magma denser than oceanic plate? Then how does it sink into it? So for a warped unscientific moment it slides down the opposite rifted sundered edge into magma...??! Look, envision this. Two big slabs of thick clay with squared off ends. Rest them onto very thick mud. Seal off the adjacent mud with thick planks of wood, then push on the slabs of clay. You realize why they didn’t sink down. There is no space in the mud. It is sealed off. No place to be displaced too. Hmmmm, if that mud wasn’t so viscus. But it is for a reason. The asthenosphere is viscus. So push down on one side of the clay. I know you should have pushed both pieces, both sides down … but you are trying to get this thing to work like geology says. Thing is the clay’s top angle grab the other side and pulls it down unevenly into the mud ‘cause there is pressure from both sides. You haven’t pushed down very far when the mud, under pressure, comes gushing up at any and every space.

We realize that if this was magma instead of mud, it would have hit the water, coming up, and act like cement, and harden up, and seal the breach.

This is not working well. Finally, push the clay slabs against each other harder. They follow physics and rise up evenly to make a triangle going up with mud squeezing out an undersea mountain.

Well, nothing works even with force applied. Of course, If it did, we still have the question of force. What is the force that pushes the slab down?

Down one mile, sssstraight down, then two miles (3 miles to go) but wait! What s above each mile down. Just water? Something must replace the lowering basalt/granite slab. The water weighs one third of the plates weight. Something must fill the void above the lowering plate. Because the area above gets lighter and lighter. Scientists, it’s not a question if the plate can sink into the magma, it’s what fills the void above the lowering plate.

Does magma leap up and fill the void? If it did, wouldn’t it re-cement the lowering piece into place??

But if this piece is 5 miles deep, and say 10 miles wide, how far backward in length away from the rift is its tipping end..? In order to subduct two miles the back end of the piece must rise up two miles, like a ship in the sea when it sinks as its, say, front end tips downward into the water the back end rises up out of the water. So must a section of rifting oceanic crust. It’s quite brittle so it doesn’t bend, it must rise in the rear. Does it? Or does it bend? Some geologists say it bends. (Sigh …… sigh.) Uh, ISN’T IT THIS SUPER DENSE BASALT?? That’s geology’s point. You know what basalt does … easily it splits and cracks and shatters. It’s bloody basalt … in very, very, verrrry cold water.

Check this. As a 5 mile thick slab lowers in the front and raises in the back. Its furthest length becomes greater from upper corner to lower corner, ‘cause it’s tilting its rectangle off level. It gets longer! What then?

Wouldn’t this push back now toward the rift. The subducting piece tips and pushes down 3 miles then 4 miles. Then finally 5 miles. Then the magma gushes up under tremendous pressure and seals the breach. No? Of course, the magma MUST gush up on going as the side goes down, by Archimedes Law. So doesn’t the magma seal the breach?

What pushes it down, my friends? There is no power available to do this task. None whatsoever. Even convection is losing converts because of tests that indicate a silicate solidity in that which was once considered pure magma, right John?

Every step down would release magma to rise up and fill any rift to seal it like a scar. What else would happen? Or perhaps I m wrong. Am I wrong? Before you fall off the edge of the Earth, you ought to get serious about this.

Let’s get serious. Many subduction zones are near or at the coastline of continents or islands. I call this the swimming dog and hippo example. The hippo is the continent, the dog the undersea plate. The root of the continent goes 20 or 30 miles into the asthenosphere straight down. It’s like the super sub-basement of a high-rise or a big glacier or a hippo. The Oceanic Plate is like a house, a small berg, or a dog. How does the swimming dog swim under the hippo. A portion of the hippo lies above the water as the continent lies above the magma. The dog or undersea plate can’t smoothly slide under the continental plate, anymore than a dog can swim easily under a hippo, it must swim, or subduct backward. There’s no neatly slanted under plate under the continent. It’s a big fat blunk like the hippo or an iceberg. It s not, repeat not, like they draw it in those diagrams. And if you don’t know it by now it’s about time you face facts. Those computer drawings and hand drawn diagrams are a fiction made to satisfy foolish clients, just like the Greeks drew a sun circling an Earth. I have drawn this crap for science clients, and laughed all the way to the bank.

Now we’ll get serious: you know the rainbow map of the age of the ocean which goes back to only 180 million years. That map which is a geological standby. That one. You know it! You know it very well.

It’s messed up, you know. Some designer thought, Hey, let’s do it like a rainbow. That would be pretty. Trouble is, a rainbow has only 7 colors. And were talking 10 million year jumps of which there are 18, so they grouped whole decamillions together so it would be…. What,… PRETTY??

So what I did was break the segments into 10 million year groupings… as well as I could. This is the result.

Examine it yourself. Do you notice that the rifting is growing exponentially. The last 10 million years shows the greatest growth. Less as we go back in time. In the last 10 million years rifts revealed 11 million miles. The North American continent is just under 10 million square miles. Let that sink in. The previous 10 million years ago the rifts revealed about 6 million square miles and so on. If I were a geologist I would be stunned to my soul by these facts. Are you all so blasé? The Earth’s growing is increasing (look at both sides of rifts and add ‘em up.)

Examine also that the spreading radiates out in a sort of circle. Call it the wheel s rim. At the center-ish is the ancient ocean rift. Call that the hub. The segments of this wheel or pie crust get progressively bigger… wider, as they go outward. That s very bad for subduction, actually, impossible. All subduction zones are small. All rifts are big. Big wedge pieces can’t go into small spaces.

How could that possibly be? How could a wide outer segment contract and crunch down to into a narrower piece at the hub? It s not possible. Not physically possible. Here and now! Let s look at a clearer example around Antarctica.

The Antarctic Ocean has rifted all around, 360 degrees. There is no subduction noted around Australia, and yet it spreads. There are no subduction zones to take up the spread. In fact, you say North America, is coming closer to South America and vice versa. But where is subduction zone that swallows up the gulf of Mexico. For that matter, where is any subduction zone that swallows your ancient Tethys Sea from the Gulf to the . Or anywhere around the world, in any way, shape or form. So how are they closing the gap? Magic? Look at this well known and popular map and show me the subduction zones, or mountaining, or irregularities that show signs of taking up the Antarctic rift and spread zones.

This is a stupid theory. The sooner we get rid of it, the better.

Subduction is a fantasy promoted by the leaders of a community of geologists with their heads in the sand! Gentlemen don’t play the fool in the face of facts. Don’t support unproven theory. Open your minds at the very least. The science of geology can lead.

One final simple example, South America and Africa. You know they once fit together, right? They had to, and the bottom of South America wrapped around the bottom of Africa, right? Which in turn clung to Antarctica, right? Right?! Right!!!

Thing is, South America and Africa don t fit together. If you try to put them together and match the north of South America and the overhang of Africa then as you go down on the two triangular bottoms there is a 25 degree angle missing. A pie wedge of material. You can’t account for it, no matter how you try. Unless you say; the pieces were verrry flexible.

Well they weren’t! Flexible! At all! They’re granite and basalt. They’d break!

There is one way they could fit together, but you geologists would have to seek out your answers in geometry, not geology.

If the Earth were 30 percent smaller all the geometry would change. The continents would wrap tighter around a smaller ball and the tails of South America and Africa would fit perfectly.

In fact, the Great Lakes would close and the Atlantic, much of the Pacific, the Mediterranean, Black, Caspian and Aral Sea would close, Africa would wrap much closer to India, much closer, and since you re recurving the surface, many wrinkles (we call them mountains) would flatten, the Rockies and much of the Himalayas to name a couple of bunches would flatten. Oh… and dinosaurs could still migrate hemispherically… and live (heh.) Now the dinosaurs only surviving descendent's, the birds, migrate hemisphereically.

Neal Adams

Get off your arses and put your thinking caps on, boys. The new science awaits.

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